Infertility after abortion is real. I have personally known two women (both nurses married to doctors) who became infertile after abortions in their early 20s. Both women developed an immune reaction to the embryos, causing early miscarriages. One ended up with two kids via donor eggs/IVF, one was able to overcome the immune reaction with a daily aspirin.
It's not just that IVF costs are high and the money could be better spent encouraging younger, poorer couples to have kids. It is also the case that with government subsidies, IFV costs would soar. What is really motivating this subsidy is a cynical vote-buying political calculation, as I explained in an article I wrote about this back when Trump first brought up IVF subsidies in his campaign ( https://mises.org/mises-wire/trump-campaign-tries-buy-votes-subsidizing-ivf ). Ultimately, wrecking the economy for political gain is not something that will promote investments in child-bearing and child-rearing over the long run.
AI is increasingly replacing humans in the job market. Increasing birth rates in a society that cannot offer sustainable employment is immoral. Poverty is immoral. Also, increasing birth rates in a society that does not financially support women with children who find themselves divorced or choose to divorce to avoid all manner of abuses is immoral. Over fifty percent of marriages fail, not a statistic that encourages the multiplication of progeny on any level. So, easy for those with options to tout their ideals for others to follow, despite the dearth of financial and emotional support. It is immoral.
You overlooked the fact that all life, including children, is created by God. If a pregnancy doesn’t occur, that is God’s decision. Creating life in a petri dish is the work of Satan. And those unused embryos are human lives. Discarding them is murder.
My wife tells me that in some rodent experiments sterility starts to show up after repeated generations of IVF. It could mean that gene lines with difficulty replicating may die out eventually even with heroic and EXPENSIVE efforts.
I didn't decide to not have kids because of finances. Long story short, it's because of our healthcare system. I'm not bringing new life into this world and being tortured in the process by doctors who will call CPS if I refuse any of their recommended treatments for myself or the baby. I'm refusing all vaccines, and the vitamin K shots. Even before 2020 when I would have vaccinated my kids, I still feared what the hospital would do to me and/or the baby, given my mom and I both having lifelong health problems due to actions of hospital staff when I was born. And don't tell me about home birth, my mom tried that and when her water broke and the midwife saw baby poop they sent my mom to the hospital for a lengthy but still vaginal birth, which she had to fight for because the hospital was getting impatient and wanting to do a c section. That was in the 80's. I suspect now they would have told her to do a c section right away or they'd call CPS to take the baby even if she had a vaginal birth and a healthy baby.
My spouse and I can afford kids. We can afford to have me stay home and raise them and homeschool them. We use 2 methods of birth control religiously, and I take a pregnancy test after my period every month anyway, because medical abortions are safer the earlier you do them, and I'm definitely aborting if I get pregnant.
I don't think we're talking enough about how the healthcare system is the problem with our population level fertility. Aside from those of us too traumatized by our experiences with the healthcare system that we won't volunteer to be hospitalized (which is what you do when you get pregnant) some women have one child, maybe wanted more, but are so messed up having the first one they either can't or won't have more.
Infertility after abortion is real. I have personally known two women (both nurses married to doctors) who became infertile after abortions in their early 20s. Both women developed an immune reaction to the embryos, causing early miscarriages. One ended up with two kids via donor eggs/IVF, one was able to overcome the immune reaction with a daily aspirin.
It's not just that IVF costs are high and the money could be better spent encouraging younger, poorer couples to have kids. It is also the case that with government subsidies, IFV costs would soar. What is really motivating this subsidy is a cynical vote-buying political calculation, as I explained in an article I wrote about this back when Trump first brought up IVF subsidies in his campaign ( https://mises.org/mises-wire/trump-campaign-tries-buy-votes-subsidizing-ivf ). Ultimately, wrecking the economy for political gain is not something that will promote investments in child-bearing and child-rearing over the long run.
An excellent point, I agree.
AI is increasingly replacing humans in the job market. Increasing birth rates in a society that cannot offer sustainable employment is immoral. Poverty is immoral. Also, increasing birth rates in a society that does not financially support women with children who find themselves divorced or choose to divorce to avoid all manner of abuses is immoral. Over fifty percent of marriages fail, not a statistic that encourages the multiplication of progeny on any level. So, easy for those with options to tout their ideals for others to follow, despite the dearth of financial and emotional support. It is immoral.
Humans are not a scourge upon the earth. Humans are the earth's best most precious natural resource.
Modern humans do not live in balance with nature; what a scourge.
Well, if the elephants are endangered it ain't gonna be the tigers that save them. That's going to be up to the humans.
Most humans complied with Fauci and Gates mRNA directives. It doesn't bode well for humans taking wise action moving forward.
You overlooked the fact that all life, including children, is created by God. If a pregnancy doesn’t occur, that is God’s decision. Creating life in a petri dish is the work of Satan. And those unused embryos are human lives. Discarding them is murder.
My wife tells me that in some rodent experiments sterility starts to show up after repeated generations of IVF. It could mean that gene lines with difficulty replicating may die out eventually even with heroic and EXPENSIVE efforts.
Found this more recent study investigating changes in male offspring.
I will not deny you the pleasure of looking for other studies.
"In vitro fertilization induces reproductive changes in male mouse offspring and has multigenerational effects", Eric A Rhon-Calderon et.al., 2025
https://doi.org/10.1172/jci.insight.188931
This tab was open already so I copy it for you as well.
"IVF exposure induced intergenerational effects on metabolic phenotype in mice", Miaomiao Ban et.al., 2024
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.rbmo.2024.103992
I didn't decide to not have kids because of finances. Long story short, it's because of our healthcare system. I'm not bringing new life into this world and being tortured in the process by doctors who will call CPS if I refuse any of their recommended treatments for myself or the baby. I'm refusing all vaccines, and the vitamin K shots. Even before 2020 when I would have vaccinated my kids, I still feared what the hospital would do to me and/or the baby, given my mom and I both having lifelong health problems due to actions of hospital staff when I was born. And don't tell me about home birth, my mom tried that and when her water broke and the midwife saw baby poop they sent my mom to the hospital for a lengthy but still vaginal birth, which she had to fight for because the hospital was getting impatient and wanting to do a c section. That was in the 80's. I suspect now they would have told her to do a c section right away or they'd call CPS to take the baby even if she had a vaginal birth and a healthy baby.
My spouse and I can afford kids. We can afford to have me stay home and raise them and homeschool them. We use 2 methods of birth control religiously, and I take a pregnancy test after my period every month anyway, because medical abortions are safer the earlier you do them, and I'm definitely aborting if I get pregnant.
I don't think we're talking enough about how the healthcare system is the problem with our population level fertility. Aside from those of us too traumatized by our experiences with the healthcare system that we won't volunteer to be hospitalized (which is what you do when you get pregnant) some women have one child, maybe wanted more, but are so messed up having the first one they either can't or won't have more.