Aaron, you forget to mention that there was no need for a vaccine. People were denied treatment on purpose. There are treatments now including fluvoxamine that if given early will prevent the deadly cytokine storm. See Steve Kirsch. Just wondering. When you were a med student did they educate you about VAERS, or was that skipped like it was at my med school. University of Pittsburgh where they are now disenrolling students that are not vaccinated against covid 19 with a injection that is not a vaccine under the old definition. Did you know when Jonas Salk developed his vaccine, he actually injected himself and his family. Lets see the big pharma execs do that prior to rollout on the public...
I only realized recently how the allopathic model developed...my grandmother lost 2 younger siblings in 1918 and events may not be as they have been portrayed. I would agree that natural solutions are best. Ivermectin was isolated from soil in Japan. My focus is not on medicine like it used to be.
No. But I did read Brian Roberts comment. Probably won't agree with Setty on the alien issue. I will be out of work after the 21st for a few weeks and intend to start blogging then. Maybe I'll get around to that sort of subject.
Jan 14, 2022·edited Jan 14, 2022Liked by Aaron Kheriaty, MD
This was fantastic show of Highwire and it's been a treat for me as a non-sports person to have been introduced to so many bright, articulate and principled athletes. It was fab to hear Jonathon say that team mates who were jabbed, boosted and then infected are done with jabs, not just because they are high profile but they are more representative of normal people attitudes than any media or politician or poll MSM wave around.
My problem with the Natural Immunity argument is that it's a rearguard defense that leaves unvaccinated/uninfected people exposed and left to fend for themselves. Suppose they grant an exemption for the unvaxxed/covid-recovered; it will most certainly be for a few months or a year, at best, and then you'll be forced to roll up your sleeve. One needn't have graduated from law school to realize it is a losing argument.
On top of it being a slow retreat to ultimate defeat, it divides the unvaxxed between the "worthy survivors" and the others, thereby unnecessarily distracting from the one and only argument: I am a free person and have the right to refuse any medical treatment.
I deeply appreciate your integrity in this matter. Please stand up for all of us.
I agree with John. Although I am about 90% certain that I had Covid-19 early in January 2020, I have not proof for that. When comparing symptoms much much later, I realized that I had Covid. I have no intention of getting vaccinated or tested. See no reason for that.
What we need to insist, in addition to natural immunity, is that there is prevention (boosting your immune system), and early outpatient treatment that should work for majority of population. However, prevention and early treatment are suppressed and demonized.
Hi Aaron, I have been flowing your case, saw the excellent interview, and followed Zywicki’s GMU case and have met his lawyer Jenin. As a psychologist and thinking strategically, and focused on demystification, I felt compelled to pathologize the denial of natural immunity. Please share this with Jonathon Isaac and others if you deem it worthy.
Natural Immunity Denial Disorder: Diagnosing a Dangerous Condition
This is a tipping point issue. Also people with natural immunity are at higher risk for adverse reactions. This issue has split my family - as my daughters have natural immunity and my son follows the CDC, so he kept his kids from hers, and my other daughter with natural immunity got the J&J shot out of such pressure, as a license to hug. Your voice is very important.
Aaron, I have just read your and Jonathan Issac's article publish on Fox News. Excellent points! I am not surprised that NYT did not want to publish your response. I stopped reading NYT in late 1990s. I do hope that you will continue your fight against the University of California and that you will prevail.
Does data still matter: "... according to the data submitted to the FDA, 67 percent protected against infection; whereas studies of natural immunity consistently shows 99 percent protection against reinfection."
If it did, if we were following the science, natural immunity would have been recognized months ago.
Do policies based on sound science and risk analysis have any place in our public health practice?
Currently: "These policies ignore natural immunity already suggests an unscientific approach to their formation, as does the fact that COVID has a 99.998 percent survival rate for healthy people under 50."
The current policies also ignore the vaccines pose risks to otherwise healthy people under 50. And the discussion of mandating vaccines for children deserves its own post and thread.
On it goes.
But it does seem that more people are starting to listen. They've were promised Covid Zero. Now, they know they are not going to get it. They learned to demonized the unvaxxed. Now, they know even the vaxxed can get infected, spread Covid, and even die from Covid.
Omicron might yet prove a blessing in disguise. It will confer natural immunity to hundreds of millions of people, and do so at fairly marginal risk.
The big question: will this natural immunity be recognized? And then can we finally call the pandemic an endemic, and focus on therapeutics, and -- perhaps even more importantly -- encouraging people to live lifestyles which are not a poly-pharmaceutical enabled compilation of co-morbidities.
Yes, science-based medicine is good. Often essential. Life-saving. But yes, your best defense against illness remains eating healthy (close to the source), staying physically active, and having or keeping good core relationships.
The USA has been trying and failing to vaccinate its way out of a myriad of public and personal health problems. This failed -- as it could only fail.
I can only pray that one outcome of this is that more people accept personal responsibility for their health: they say no to a life-style of co-morbidities, yes to an active lifestyle of wellness. The see the answer cannot just be in big medicine: it must be also in their everyday choices and decisions.
(For the record, since I am currently living overseas, last year I had two doses of Sinovac. I am not "anti-vaccine": I am against the abuses of this particular vaccine campaign. I have no case against the tried and tested sterilizing vaccines for smallpox, polio, and the measles, for example. I have had these shots -- and am glad that I did).
Aaron, thank you for supporting Novak Djokovic. This world-renown tennis player has been demonized and attacked by MSM and crocked politicians. The Australian Government did not want to stop Nadal, but rather used Novak for their political games You are right - Novak came from a small country of Serbia, started from zero and fought very hard to reach the top. The Serbs learned long time ago to recognize propaganda and lies. Through history, they have always fought against various empires/invaders, and now they are fighting against NWO. It is why he has been singled out and used as an example of what .one can expect if does not comply to tyrannical mandates. As a top-athlete, Novak learned to listen to his body, eat right, and have specific top athlete life regime. He is not against real vaccines, but he is against Covid-19 vaccine mandates that already destroyed careers and lives of many athletes.
I’m assuming New York Times would not publish your response to its article?
I’ve been listening to The Highwire at least since 2017 as I have been an advocate for vaccine safety for over 30 years. Even back then, if you had your eyes and ears open, there were lots of questions that were not being answered, and lots of questionable studies. This COVID Plandemic has been the best thing for the vaccine safety movement. At the beginning of Plandemic , I wondered, as did Del Bigtree, if this rollout of the vaccines would be accompanied by full disclosure and transparency as the CDC promised. I think we all know that the answer is; it has not. Del has been at the forefront of the Covid vaccine launch and distribution and we have all seen what a debacle it has been with omissions, fraudulent studies, and even outright lies. I’m so happy to see more and more people opening not only their eyes but their critical thinking skills, and discovering that it has never been about our health.
Aaron, it would be very useful if you add references at the end of this article. It will help all of us that fight disinformation. For example:
"The largest study comparing the unvaccinated/naturally immune to the vaccinated found that vaccinated people were 6 to 13 times more likely to get infected, 27 times more likely to get symptomatic infections, and 8 times more likely to be hospitalized"
or
"Data from Qatar found that only 0.02 percent of COVID recovered individuals experienced reinfection, with no waning over time, and with reinfections less severe than initial infections. Data from the U.K. during Delta likewise found a 0.025 percent reinfection rate in COVID recovered people, compared to a 23 percent breakthrough infection rate in vaccinated people over the same time period."
Aaron, you forget to mention that there was no need for a vaccine. People were denied treatment on purpose. There are treatments now including fluvoxamine that if given early will prevent the deadly cytokine storm. See Steve Kirsch. Just wondering. When you were a med student did they educate you about VAERS, or was that skipped like it was at my med school. University of Pittsburgh where they are now disenrolling students that are not vaccinated against covid 19 with a injection that is not a vaccine under the old definition. Did you know when Jonas Salk developed his vaccine, he actually injected himself and his family. Lets see the big pharma execs do that prior to rollout on the public...
I only realized recently how the allopathic model developed...my grandmother lost 2 younger siblings in 1918 and events may not be as they have been portrayed. I would agree that natural solutions are best. Ivermectin was isolated from soil in Japan. My focus is not on medicine like it used to be.
No. But I did read Brian Roberts comment. Probably won't agree with Setty on the alien issue. I will be out of work after the 21st for a few weeks and intend to start blogging then. Maybe I'll get around to that sort of subject.
This was fantastic show of Highwire and it's been a treat for me as a non-sports person to have been introduced to so many bright, articulate and principled athletes. It was fab to hear Jonathon say that team mates who were jabbed, boosted and then infected are done with jabs, not just because they are high profile but they are more representative of normal people attitudes than any media or politician or poll MSM wave around.
Keep up the fight, you are on the right side of history, proven out daily with the booster debacle.
My problem with the Natural Immunity argument is that it's a rearguard defense that leaves unvaccinated/uninfected people exposed and left to fend for themselves. Suppose they grant an exemption for the unvaxxed/covid-recovered; it will most certainly be for a few months or a year, at best, and then you'll be forced to roll up your sleeve. One needn't have graduated from law school to realize it is a losing argument.
On top of it being a slow retreat to ultimate defeat, it divides the unvaxxed between the "worthy survivors" and the others, thereby unnecessarily distracting from the one and only argument: I am a free person and have the right to refuse any medical treatment.
I deeply appreciate your integrity in this matter. Please stand up for all of us.
I agree with John. Although I am about 90% certain that I had Covid-19 early in January 2020, I have not proof for that. When comparing symptoms much much later, I realized that I had Covid. I have no intention of getting vaccinated or tested. See no reason for that.
What we need to insist, in addition to natural immunity, is that there is prevention (boosting your immune system), and early outpatient treatment that should work for majority of population. However, prevention and early treatment are suppressed and demonized.
Hi Aaron, I have been flowing your case, saw the excellent interview, and followed Zywicki’s GMU case and have met his lawyer Jenin. As a psychologist and thinking strategically, and focused on demystification, I felt compelled to pathologize the denial of natural immunity. Please share this with Jonathon Isaac and others if you deem it worthy.
Natural Immunity Denial Disorder: Diagnosing a Dangerous Condition
https://coronawise.substack.com/p/natural-immunity-denial-disorder
This is a tipping point issue. Also people with natural immunity are at higher risk for adverse reactions. This issue has split my family - as my daughters have natural immunity and my son follows the CDC, so he kept his kids from hers, and my other daughter with natural immunity got the J&J shot out of such pressure, as a license to hug. Your voice is very important.
If it feels appropriate would you mind sending it to Del? I am a big fan.
Aaron, I have just read your and Jonathan Issac's article publish on Fox News. Excellent points! I am not surprised that NYT did not want to publish your response. I stopped reading NYT in late 1990s. I do hope that you will continue your fight against the University of California and that you will prevail.
Does data still matter: "... according to the data submitted to the FDA, 67 percent protected against infection; whereas studies of natural immunity consistently shows 99 percent protection against reinfection."
If it did, if we were following the science, natural immunity would have been recognized months ago.
Do policies based on sound science and risk analysis have any place in our public health practice?
Currently: "These policies ignore natural immunity already suggests an unscientific approach to their formation, as does the fact that COVID has a 99.998 percent survival rate for healthy people under 50."
The current policies also ignore the vaccines pose risks to otherwise healthy people under 50. And the discussion of mandating vaccines for children deserves its own post and thread.
On it goes.
But it does seem that more people are starting to listen. They've were promised Covid Zero. Now, they know they are not going to get it. They learned to demonized the unvaxxed. Now, they know even the vaxxed can get infected, spread Covid, and even die from Covid.
Omicron might yet prove a blessing in disguise. It will confer natural immunity to hundreds of millions of people, and do so at fairly marginal risk.
The big question: will this natural immunity be recognized? And then can we finally call the pandemic an endemic, and focus on therapeutics, and -- perhaps even more importantly -- encouraging people to live lifestyles which are not a poly-pharmaceutical enabled compilation of co-morbidities.
Yes, science-based medicine is good. Often essential. Life-saving. But yes, your best defense against illness remains eating healthy (close to the source), staying physically active, and having or keeping good core relationships.
The USA has been trying and failing to vaccinate its way out of a myriad of public and personal health problems. This failed -- as it could only fail.
I can only pray that one outcome of this is that more people accept personal responsibility for their health: they say no to a life-style of co-morbidities, yes to an active lifestyle of wellness. The see the answer cannot just be in big medicine: it must be also in their everyday choices and decisions.
(For the record, since I am currently living overseas, last year I had two doses of Sinovac. I am not "anti-vaccine": I am against the abuses of this particular vaccine campaign. I have no case against the tried and tested sterilizing vaccines for smallpox, polio, and the measles, for example. I have had these shots -- and am glad that I did).
Aaron, thank you for supporting Novak Djokovic. This world-renown tennis player has been demonized and attacked by MSM and crocked politicians. The Australian Government did not want to stop Nadal, but rather used Novak for their political games You are right - Novak came from a small country of Serbia, started from zero and fought very hard to reach the top. The Serbs learned long time ago to recognize propaganda and lies. Through history, they have always fought against various empires/invaders, and now they are fighting against NWO. It is why he has been singled out and used as an example of what .one can expect if does not comply to tyrannical mandates. As a top-athlete, Novak learned to listen to his body, eat right, and have specific top athlete life regime. He is not against real vaccines, but he is against Covid-19 vaccine mandates that already destroyed careers and lives of many athletes.
I’m assuming New York Times would not publish your response to its article?
I’ve been listening to The Highwire at least since 2017 as I have been an advocate for vaccine safety for over 30 years. Even back then, if you had your eyes and ears open, there were lots of questions that were not being answered, and lots of questionable studies. This COVID Plandemic has been the best thing for the vaccine safety movement. At the beginning of Plandemic , I wondered, as did Del Bigtree, if this rollout of the vaccines would be accompanied by full disclosure and transparency as the CDC promised. I think we all know that the answer is; it has not. Del has been at the forefront of the Covid vaccine launch and distribution and we have all seen what a debacle it has been with omissions, fraudulent studies, and even outright lies. I’m so happy to see more and more people opening not only their eyes but their critical thinking skills, and discovering that it has never been about our health.
Yes, we pitched the piece first to the New York Times and they declined to publish, probably for ideological reasons.
Aaron, why don't you interview Novak Djokovic?
Aaron, it would be very useful if you add references at the end of this article. It will help all of us that fight disinformation. For example:
"The largest study comparing the unvaccinated/naturally immune to the vaccinated found that vaccinated people were 6 to 13 times more likely to get infected, 27 times more likely to get symptomatic infections, and 8 times more likely to be hospitalized"
or
"Data from Qatar found that only 0.02 percent of COVID recovered individuals experienced reinfection, with no waning over time, and with reinfections less severe than initial infections. Data from the U.K. during Delta likewise found a 0.025 percent reinfection rate in COVID recovered people, compared to a 23 percent breakthrough infection rate in vaccinated people over the same time period."
Thank you!
Thank you, Aaron, for including links to relevant papers!
Thank you!